I'm trying to understand how the math works. Amazon offers a 5/15/40/40 split
So im confused when I see on levels.fyi theres 30k stock options at amazon where is that coming from? does that mean year 2 theres 90k? and 250k years 3/4?
In addition to the great points everyone mentioned here, Amazon backloads their stock grant because they essentially want to filter out only those who can make it from SDE 1 -> SDE 2 in ~2 years.
What you are seeing on levels.fyi is probably an average or some sort of calculation based off of the four years vesting.
For those who aren't familiar, the 5/15/40/40 split means:
(See this video which explains common compensation terms: Understand What You’re Negotiating For)
This differs from most companies (Meta, Google, etc) that vest an equal amount, 25%, each year. Amazon does this to incentivize people to stay at the company for a longer period of time.
To your question about what you see on levels.fyi: (screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/Zot8YYb) -- this is likely the aggregate data for how much equity the SDE 1 position gets. You'll have some SDE 1s who are in year 1, some in year 2, and probably a few in year 3 or 4. So $30K/year is the avg comp for an entry-level eng at Amazon.
$250K equity for an SDE 1 would be insanely high, I'm quite sure that is not the case. Amazon generally pays less than Meta and Google, so you can use the equivalent level compensation to sanity-check the results.
For FAANG junior, you usually don't get much equity, with most of your pay being salary. In the US, the typical package is between $175k - $200k and will look something like this:
Amazon is weird due to its backloaded vesting. To offset this and make your TC normal, they will give you a big signing bonus that vests across the first 2 years.
On a side note, I recommend learning more about equity as you won't get stock options at Amazon, just RSUs. Stock options are particularly for startups. Check out our tech pay explainer masterclass here: [Masterclass] Understanding And Optimizing Your Pay In Tech
when you say 35k/yr? is that an avg over the 4 years? so ur first year equity package is more like 5-10k?
Yeah, in Amazon's case, the $35k/year would be an average (so it would be like ~$150k total across 4 years).
Your first year comp would be very cash heavy:
Amazon should just get rid of their infamous backloading honestly. It's a nasty way to convince people to stay longer (assuming good stock growth), and it's so, so confusing.