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How to choose between IC and manager paths?

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Software Engineer [E4] at Aptos Labs18 days ago

I know this is a broad question and depends on personal choices. I'm wondering if you could provide some insights on choosing between IC and manager paths.
What are the factors to look into?
How fast or difficult is career growth in both the paths?
How do the work-life balance and day-to-day life look like in both these paths?
My eventual goal is to start a startup. Does having managerial experience help here or being strong senior/staff IC help here better?

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    Engineer @ Robinhood
    17 days ago
    • What are the factors to look into?
      • Do you enjoy being close & deep into the technical systems or do you enjoy the challenge of maximizing teamwork in a team?
    • How fast or difficult is career growth in both the paths?
      • Manager is generally easier since your impact is loosely associated with how many people you report to. However, the less reports you have the more easy it is for 1 unhappy report (or a few) to get you fired (I have seen this happen before). So easier later, but much harder earlier (due to the risk & the initial hurdle of having a completely different job).
    • How do the work-life balance and day-to-day life look like in both these paths?
      • As a senior IC, I spent a good amount of time writing and reviewing code and technical systems & a lot of my thinking is directly tied to my understanding of the system. From what I see from my managers, they're more often meeting with other people to talk about how the projects are doing, how are the people doing, and making sure everyone is playing nice.
    • Does having managerial experience help here or being strong senior/staff IC help here better?
      • It depends on what your plan for running the startup is: is it going to a smaller, more specialized shop or do you want to have a company that will be the next big company?
      • There's so many variables to consider with a startup and so many directions to consider with your life that are always changing, but experience gained through time will always give you clarity. Just focus on your job right now and let your day-to-day experiences guide you to learning what your path forward is.
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    Tech Lead/Manager at Meta, Pinterest, Kosei
    10 days ago

    This is a very broad generalization, but:

    • Managers have an easier time getting promoted at senior levels, but their job becomes more reactive and service-oriented.
    • IC engineers have a harder time getting promoted, but can keep some level of autonomy and flexibility.

    If your goal is to start a startup, the Big Tech managerial skills won't really help you. Your network will be important, and managers may have wider networks, but the actual management experience is unlikely to transfer over into a startup.

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      Mid-level Software Engineer [OP]
      Aptos Labs
      10 days ago

      "the actual management experience is unlikely to transfer over into a startup."
      Thanks a lot for the insight. I'm curious for the reason behind this. Is this because, managers in the big tech are very reactive to the issues they get, whereas for managing a startup, you need to be very proactive? Or is it because the issues in startups and big tech are fundamentally different?

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      Tech Lead/Manager at Meta, Pinterest, Kosei
      10 days ago

      The latter: the issues in startups and big tech are fundamentally different.

      There are only two types of companies: those that have reached product-market fit (PMF) and those that haven't.

      The way you should operate and hire is very, very different between PMF and non-PMF companies. Most startups don't have PMF (and will never get it), so it's foolish to apply the processes and tools of larger companies.