These are questions for Rahul since he put together a great negotiation course that I completed the other day.
I recently skimmed the Design Guru's course on negotiation, and two questions came up
My experience is that your point of contact has absolutely no ability to make a decision independently when negotiating. They have been trained in the art of candidate jiu jitsu, trying to use leverage against you to get a number. When they do tell you a number, they can’t change it themselves. You can make a counter, you can ask for at least TC of X, etc. You can say “nope, just higher” they will have a hard time. They know the first number is (possibly) below your minimum, or you’re bluffing. When you do give a counter offer or whatever, they just go to some unknowable entity and come back with a new offer. Doing this by phone gives you no advantage. They don’t have to make any decisions or have any pressure at all. At least by email you can craft a response, get feedback, etc.
Best to negotiate once you have a written/verbal offer. Typically you want to avoid giving a number.
Dodge the question "I'm more interested in understanding if this role is a fit for me. I'd like to first understand the role more before coming up with a number". They will typically give you a range based on JD and say ok just so you know this is the alotted range. I typically just say yes here. This is also typically base which has less room for negotiation
I would definitely do it by email. If they put you on the phone and ask for a number pass it back and ask for a range. If they press you for an amount give a lower bound for alignment. Never give an upper bound. I would not initiate negotiation until they roll out some form of verbal/written offer
Never disclose what companies you are interviewing for. Just say I have no details regarding deadlines to share at the moment
How/when do you negotiate?
Definitely do email instead of phone. Negotiation is a game of information warfare, and you reveal less information via email. When you're on the phone, they can hear the tone of your voice, how you respond to things, etc. Even with audio-only, body language cues can shine through. In terms of when, play it reactively (i.e. when they give an initial number or ask you for one).
What do you do if they explicitly ask you what your salary # amount is?
Rahul's course covers this in-depth: https://www.jointaro.com/course/the-insiders-guide-to-negotiating-your-tech-salary-and-compensation/what-if-i-have-to-give-a-number/
In terms of revealing other companies, you can reveal it vaguely if you have leverage - In Meta's case, you would need other Big Tech companies or top startups. If you do have open loops at those companies, you can just mention that you're interviewing with other prestigious Big Tech companies (this makes Meta afraid that they'll lose you to a competitor).
I'm curious where do you live?
Silicon Valley. And yes, it was with Meta, and the recruiter on initial on the phone screen (internal) gave the starting salary number in the VERY beginning of the phone call before even doing in the interview and asked "is this ok?" I knew this was HELLA shady.
I did that interview months ago (before watching this course), once I watched it it reconfirmed HOW shady it was, since most negotiation I do is AFTER an interview and AFTER an offer is given, and oh ya, all of that was BY PHONE not email which also really bothered me A LOT.
Thanks for this tips, it reconfirms that ideally in negotiation, it should be done at offer stage (of course) and via email (ideally) - which to me is like (duh), but this is why I hated my Meta interview so much because a lot of stuff threw me off and made zero sense (including asking systems design questions in the initial phone screen and giving me like 5 minutes to talk it through...ya seriously that happened. X_X.